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BMW vehicles have always had an air of exclusivity to them. The ownership of a BMW sort of implies that you've chosen to take a slightly different path. Possessing one says to the world that you're willing to pay the piper more than what most are willing to sacrifice in order to have what many only dream of owning.
Indeed, BMW's reputation for making excellent vehicles has raised the marque to that of status symbol. Even here in the Land of Pomposity (L.A.) where BMWs are as common as face lifts, there's still an allurement to them.
In the automotive world, BMW’s M series cars build upon the chic-ness of the German brand. Cars carrying this designation in the model name are unique amongst rank and file BMWs. They may look like their siblings, but beneath the shared exterior beats the heart of a race-inspired mill, with performance-oriented suspension and handling components to complement the extra horsepower.
An M car to the casual observer looks like all the rest, but to the sharp eye of the motoring enthusiast seeing an M car tells them that the driver/owner cares less for image and more for the performance potential of the machine. Yep, those who know these vehicles know what they want, and they're willing to pay the high price for the privilege.
The two-wheeled branch of BMW hadn't had such a VIP status available for riders until recently. In mid-2006 the company announced the HP2 Enduro. Utilizing a hot-rodded version of the 1,170cc Boxer mill, the Enduro became a high-flying 105-horsepower dirt eater.
Next up was the HP2 Megamoto. With 17-inch wheels, sticky tires and long-travel suspenders, the Megamoto is the hooligan that BMW originally hoped they could create by having Enduro owners simply swap out spoke wheels and knobbies for 17-inch hoops with street tires. The Megamoto has trouble-maker written all over it, just like a true supermoto, save for the fact that it weighs in excess of 400 lbs.
Now comes the HP2 Sport.
The latest member of the high-performance Boxer family is a race bike at heart. This exquisite machine draws its lineage from the endurance-racing-proven R1200S that won its class at the 24 Hours of Le Mans this year.
The key difference in the Sport's engine - and it's an historic difference! - is the use of double overhead cams that employ drag levers, each opening a 39mm intake and 33mm exhaust valve (36mm and 31mm respectively on the R1200S). An OHC hasn't been used in a Boxer head in, like, forever, dude!
The four valves per cylinder are arranged radially for "optimal flow," as well as creating a more compact combustion chamber which eliminates the second spark plug as used on the R1200S. Intake and exhaust ports were machined for better flow, forged pistons are used to cope with the increased torque, as are "adapted" ("beefed-up" in Motorcycle.com speak) connecting rods. Compression is a respectable 12.5:1. Double oil coolers are arranged in series in the nose of the carbon/Kevlar composite front clip that's been wind-tunneled designed to help aid air flow over said coolers.
BMW claims the HP2 Sport produces 130 hp at 8750 rpm and 84.8 ft-lbs of torque at 6000 rpm, with a max rev of 9500 rpm. The more workaday R1200S churns out a claimed 122 bhp at 8250 rpm and 83 ft-lbs at 6300 rpm.
To cap it off, the entirety of the head covers are carbon-fiber/Kevlar, with each having its own little slider puck that comes in quite handy; extreme angles aren't necessary to touch the heads. A number of riders at the press launch had BMW techs raise ride height in order to pick up some ground clearance.
BMW may not care much for my comparison here, but the close-ratio six-speed tranny is of Japanese quality in its slickness and is rather transparent in operation, just like a good gearbox should be. Wailing down a racetrack is not the time or place to be thinking about a clunky gear set.
My slovenly shifting habits had me down one gear too many a couple of times; it was at those moments that the rear squawked and squirmed ever so slightly, leading me to safely assume that the HP2 Sport uses a non-slipper clutch. Something of an odd choice considering the bike's race origins and today's sportbike trends. In any event, clutch pull was very light.
Another item on the HP2 Sport to identify its racing bias is what BMW calls the "the gearshift assistant." This bit of wordsmith trickery translates into what is a type of ignition interrupt that allows the rider keep the throttle pinned whilst snicking up through the transmission. BMW says it enables "fast gear changes without having to ease off the gas and operate the clutch." This technology worked very well, but force of habit during shifting of backing off the throttle - for, well, all of my riding life - took a great deal of unlearning before I was able to play racer boy and use the gearshift sans clutch or blipped throttle.
A reverse shift pattern for racing is possible with the turn and twist of just a couple of bolts. And for just such an application, BMW offers (at an additional charge, of course) a replacement pressure sensor to adapt the quick-shifter to a GP-style race pattern.
More ponies and twisting force are complemented with an all-new stainless-steel exhaust system that passes under the oil sump and continues up to the tail section to meet with the silencer. This new routing, says BMW, "guarantees optimum angle of tilt when riding." An exhaust valve that's operated by an electronically controlled servomotor via cable sits at a point where the silencer and header pipe meet to purportedly produces a fuller torque curve.
The very simple chassis is graced with fully-adjustable Öhlins shocks on the rear Paralever and front Telelever . What isn't quite as obvious at first glance is just how minimal the frame is. It's really nothing more than the tubular steel midframe from the R1200S. Lacking a traditional subframe, the Sport utilizes a self-supporting carbon rear structure as a perch for the rider.
Braking is the job of radially mounted four-piston monoblock Brembo calipers and Magura brake levers with radial-pump master cylinders and stainless-steel lines. As an option, BMW ABS can be had, the version for this bike coming with a switch to disable it for track time, or any other time for that matter. On the first couple of outings the brakes offered enough feel but seemed a skosh down on power. "That can't be right," I said to myself, "these are sweet-ass Brembos!" Sure enough they are, and a quick twist of the adjuster on the lever resulted in all the power and feel my humble skill-set would ever need. The brakes are exceptional, of course, as they squeeze the 320mm rotors, and are a great example of how well a motorcycle can be slowed or stopped when premium components are used, aided by the anti-dive properties of the Telelever fork.
The German bike maker touts a claimed dry weight of 392 lbs and a svelte 438 lbs fueled up. That's pretty impressive when you consider that a Japanese inline-Four 1000cc sportbike hovers around 450 lbs wet. The Ducati 1098 scales in at around 430 lbs full of fuel.
How could they come by such wispy figures? No doubt the acres of carbon/Kevlar that make up the bodywork. And the forged (instead of cast) aluminum wheels. In addition, the HP2 Sport boasts adjustable rear-sets, adjustable handlebars and upper fork brace all made from milled aluminum, which contribute to the feathery numbers.
Finally, the robust instrument panel, or "sports info centre" as BMW refers to it, was developed with help from a company that makes data-acquisition systems for GP teams. The LCD panel is unusually large for what one would expect from a bike dash, but it provides an incredible amount of information. It operates in one of two modes: Road or Race. In addition to the usual suspects found in any streetbike display, a series of green, yellow and red LEDs blink across the top of the panel in a pattern to alert the rider of the proper engine warm-up time.
In the Race display you'll get – at a minimum – a lap timer, max revs, top speed, number of gearshifts, yada, yada, yada. It can all be downloaded to a laptop computer too. Also, the tiny Christmas tree of LEDs can serve as a programmable shift light. Access to the display is via the left switchgear like on most BMW on-board computer displays.
O Ascari, Ascari wherefore art thou, Ascari?
So, where to ride such a premium motorbike? Perhaps at the totally awesome Ascari Race Resort in Southern Spain? Yes, that will do nicely.
In fact, this location was chosen by design by BMW Motorrad. "An exclusive track for an exclusive motorcycle" was the philosophy. Ascari, to be overly simple, is a private race track with accompanying facilities that was built by the Ascari Car company. Starting in 2000, Ascari began construction of the resort as a celebration of sorts to coincide with completion of a new production facility in Banbury, England where the company's new KZ1 car would hail.
Only minutes from Ronda, Spain, Ascari's 3.37-mile course slithers through a lush, pastoral valley as its 26 turns (13 left, 13 right!) carry you around banked turns, elevation changes and a couple of very deceptive low-gear corners. The track's surface is near to flawless and its rhythm fluid, that is until you encounter those two or three sneaky "stop and turn" sections. Although I've not ridden every track in the world, I'll risk my limited reputation and say that Ascari is unparalleled anywhere, taken as a whole experience.
Upon seeing photos of the resort from my trip, Motorcycle.com's photog and video man, Alfonse "Fonzie" Palaima said it looked like a race facility was plopped in Northern Cal's beautiful Napa Valley. Well said.
After a couple of led sessions around this dreamy road course we were let out to experience the track, and more importantly, the HP2 Sport, for ourselves.
Saddling up to the racy Boxer is similar to mounting many supersport or superbikes of today. The racing focus dictates that the seat be high (32.6 inches) for a forward cant or tuck. Once underway, though, the ergos are very neutral for a sporting machine and light years ahead of, say, a Ducati 1098. The seat-to-bar relation makes it easy for getting into a tuck, but does so in a manner that let me scooch back to lay across the tank and still be able to see through the windscreen and all of my helmet lens. Too often, attempting a full tuck on many other sportbikes compromises my view.
The ergonomics so impressed me that they bear a little more discussion. Not only is the reach to the clip-ons reasonable, the seat-to-peg distance seemed exceptionally roomy. My usual experience on performance bikes is a hot spot on the bottom of my foot and a numb throttle hand after half a day's worth of circling a course. At the end of our time at Ascari, it occurred to me that not once did I have to pull in before the end of a session to let the blood flow back into my tootsies or hands.
Additionally, the bike is narrow-waisted, no doubt aiding ride comfort and ease in transitioning across the saddle. Finally, I've found a sportbike that creates harmony between rider and bike without sacrificing either performance potential or comfort.
Next on the list is the superlative exhaust note that comes on this street-legal stallion. It'll make a racer out of anyone riding it, as the cleanly shaped can screams performance at speed, burbles like a tuned race machine at idle, and – this is the most fun part! – pops on the overrun like a formula car. Nothing short of thrilling sounds.
Throttle response was instantaneous and glitch-free while on the fly, allowing quick access to the grunty bottom-end power. But from closed to open throttle it felt remarkably abrupt. It had that on/off feel that plagues any number of fuel-injected bikes. Getting over that hump is easily forgotten once you start enjoying the very linear power inherent in the Boxer motor. The engine revs quickly, and a perceptible poke of power came on around 6000 rpm, though it's a bit difficult to say exactly the spot of boost as the LCD display was hard to read at times. Murky instrument display aside, the bike is plenty fast and fun to keep the throttle wrapped out. Driveline lash from the Paralever shaft drive was imperceptible during my time in the saddle.
The HP2 Sport may get out-gunned in an all-out speed war, but from my perspective it's difficult to find a better chassis. Stability at all times is a hallmark of the bike. A quick check of the specs reveals that the Sport shares nearly identical rake and trail figures (24.0 degrees and 3.4 inches) with Yamaha's R6 (24 degrees and 3.8") as an example. Those dimensions combined with the minimized rotating mass of the forged wheels and overall light weight of the bike make initial turn-in quick and light despite an unfashionably long 58.5" wheelbase.
Mid-corner line changes, trail braking and my own movement on the bike couldn't do anything to upset the bike's trajectory. What this boiled down to in the end was a bike that was easy to ride almost from the get go. All the more to its credit was that it allowed me to get comfortable quickly on a serpentine track that I'd never ridden.
Good news, bad news
If we've whet your appetite for this special motorcycle, you'll be even happier to know that it will be coming to the U.S.
As for when, how many or how much it'll cause you to deviate from your debt reduction plan, even BMW themselves can't say for certain at this juncture. Taking a guess, it's likely that more than 100 but probably well below 500 units will be bound for U.S. shores. Pricing? That's an even wilder guess. Again, we'll take a stab and say at least $22K, but it's entirely possible to see a figure over $25,000.
Something BMW is saying for certain is that they plan to campaign the bike in Formula Xtreme race trim next March at the Daytona 200. This high-performance Twin should do well considering its development in the 2007 World Endurance series and the near-win by an R1200S in this year’s Moto-ST endurance race at Daytona.
A few months ago I convinced my wife that she and I should join a health club. Judging by my expanding pear figure, it's obvious attending that club isn't a priority, though I said it would be. So, how do I explain to my wife I want to join a new club, an exclusive club
Indeed, BMW's reputation for making excellent vehicles has raised the marque to that of status symbol. Even here in the Land of Pomposity (L.A.) where BMWs are as common as face lifts, there's still an allurement to them.
In the automotive world, BMW’s M series cars build upon the chic-ness of the German brand. Cars carrying this designation in the model name are unique amongst rank and file BMWs. They may look like their siblings, but beneath the shared exterior beats the heart of a race-inspired mill, with performance-oriented suspension and handling components to complement the extra horsepower.
An M car to the casual observer looks like all the rest, but to the sharp eye of the motoring enthusiast seeing an M car tells them that the driver/owner cares less for image and more for the performance potential of the machine. Yep, those who know these vehicles know what they want, and they're willing to pay the high price for the privilege.
The two-wheeled branch of BMW hadn't had such a VIP status available for riders until recently. In mid-2006 the company announced the HP2 Enduro. Utilizing a hot-rodded version of the 1,170cc Boxer mill, the Enduro became a high-flying 105-horsepower dirt eater.
Next up was the HP2 Megamoto. With 17-inch wheels, sticky tires and long-travel suspenders, the Megamoto is the hooligan that BMW originally hoped they could create by having Enduro owners simply swap out spoke wheels and knobbies for 17-inch hoops with street tires. The Megamoto has trouble-maker written all over it, just like a true supermoto, save for the fact that it weighs in excess of 400 lbs.
Now comes the HP2 Sport.
The latest member of the high-performance Boxer family is a race bike at heart. This exquisite machine draws its lineage from the endurance-racing-proven R1200S that won its class at the 24 Hours of Le Mans this year.
The key difference in the Sport's engine - and it's an historic difference! - is the use of double overhead cams that employ drag levers, each opening a 39mm intake and 33mm exhaust valve (36mm and 31mm respectively on the R1200S). An OHC hasn't been used in a Boxer head in, like, forever, dude!
The four valves per cylinder are arranged radially for "optimal flow," as well as creating a more compact combustion chamber which eliminates the second spark plug as used on the R1200S. Intake and exhaust ports were machined for better flow, forged pistons are used to cope with the increased torque, as are "adapted" ("beefed-up" in Motorcycle.com speak) connecting rods. Compression is a respectable 12.5:1. Double oil coolers are arranged in series in the nose of the carbon/Kevlar composite front clip that's been wind-tunneled designed to help aid air flow over said coolers.
BMW claims the HP2 Sport produces 130 hp at 8750 rpm and 84.8 ft-lbs of torque at 6000 rpm, with a max rev of 9500 rpm. The more workaday R1200S churns out a claimed 122 bhp at 8250 rpm and 83 ft-lbs at 6300 rpm.
To cap it off, the entirety of the head covers are carbon-fiber/Kevlar, with each having its own little slider puck that comes in quite handy; extreme angles aren't necessary to touch the heads. A number of riders at the press launch had BMW techs raise ride height in order to pick up some ground clearance.
BMW may not care much for my comparison here, but the close-ratio six-speed tranny is of Japanese quality in its slickness and is rather transparent in operation, just like a good gearbox should be. Wailing down a racetrack is not the time or place to be thinking about a clunky gear set.
My slovenly shifting habits had me down one gear too many a couple of times; it was at those moments that the rear squawked and squirmed ever so slightly, leading me to safely assume that the HP2 Sport uses a non-slipper clutch. Something of an odd choice considering the bike's race origins and today's sportbike trends. In any event, clutch pull was very light.
Another item on the HP2 Sport to identify its racing bias is what BMW calls the "the gearshift assistant." This bit of wordsmith trickery translates into what is a type of ignition interrupt that allows the rider keep the throttle pinned whilst snicking up through the transmission. BMW says it enables "fast gear changes without having to ease off the gas and operate the clutch." This technology worked very well, but force of habit during shifting of backing off the throttle - for, well, all of my riding life - took a great deal of unlearning before I was able to play racer boy and use the gearshift sans clutch or blipped throttle.
A reverse shift pattern for racing is possible with the turn and twist of just a couple of bolts. And for just such an application, BMW offers (at an additional charge, of course) a replacement pressure sensor to adapt the quick-shifter to a GP-style race pattern.
More ponies and twisting force are complemented with an all-new stainless-steel exhaust system that passes under the oil sump and continues up to the tail section to meet with the silencer. This new routing, says BMW, "guarantees optimum angle of tilt when riding." An exhaust valve that's operated by an electronically controlled servomotor via cable sits at a point where the silencer and header pipe meet to purportedly produces a fuller torque curve.
The very simple chassis is graced with fully-adjustable Öhlins shocks on the rear Paralever and front Telelever . What isn't quite as obvious at first glance is just how minimal the frame is. It's really nothing more than the tubular steel midframe from the R1200S. Lacking a traditional subframe, the Sport utilizes a self-supporting carbon rear structure as a perch for the rider.
Braking is the job of radially mounted four-piston monoblock Brembo calipers and Magura brake levers with radial-pump master cylinders and stainless-steel lines. As an option, BMW ABS can be had, the version for this bike coming with a switch to disable it for track time, or any other time for that matter. On the first couple of outings the brakes offered enough feel but seemed a skosh down on power. "That can't be right," I said to myself, "these are sweet-ass Brembos!" Sure enough they are, and a quick twist of the adjuster on the lever resulted in all the power and feel my humble skill-set would ever need. The brakes are exceptional, of course, as they squeeze the 320mm rotors, and are a great example of how well a motorcycle can be slowed or stopped when premium components are used, aided by the anti-dive properties of the Telelever fork.
The German bike maker touts a claimed dry weight of 392 lbs and a svelte 438 lbs fueled up. That's pretty impressive when you consider that a Japanese inline-Four 1000cc sportbike hovers around 450 lbs wet. The Ducati 1098 scales in at around 430 lbs full of fuel.
How could they come by such wispy figures? No doubt the acres of carbon/Kevlar that make up the bodywork. And the forged (instead of cast) aluminum wheels. In addition, the HP2 Sport boasts adjustable rear-sets, adjustable handlebars and upper fork brace all made from milled aluminum, which contribute to the feathery numbers.
Finally, the robust instrument panel, or "sports info centre" as BMW refers to it, was developed with help from a company that makes data-acquisition systems for GP teams. The LCD panel is unusually large for what one would expect from a bike dash, but it provides an incredible amount of information. It operates in one of two modes: Road or Race. In addition to the usual suspects found in any streetbike display, a series of green, yellow and red LEDs blink across the top of the panel in a pattern to alert the rider of the proper engine warm-up time.
In the Race display you'll get – at a minimum – a lap timer, max revs, top speed, number of gearshifts, yada, yada, yada. It can all be downloaded to a laptop computer too. Also, the tiny Christmas tree of LEDs can serve as a programmable shift light. Access to the display is via the left switchgear like on most BMW on-board computer displays.
O Ascari, Ascari wherefore art thou, Ascari?
So, where to ride such a premium motorbike? Perhaps at the totally awesome Ascari Race Resort in Southern Spain? Yes, that will do nicely.
In fact, this location was chosen by design by BMW Motorrad. "An exclusive track for an exclusive motorcycle" was the philosophy. Ascari, to be overly simple, is a private race track with accompanying facilities that was built by the Ascari Car company. Starting in 2000, Ascari began construction of the resort as a celebration of sorts to coincide with completion of a new production facility in Banbury, England where the company's new KZ1 car would hail.
Only minutes from Ronda, Spain, Ascari's 3.37-mile course slithers through a lush, pastoral valley as its 26 turns (13 left, 13 right!) carry you around banked turns, elevation changes and a couple of very deceptive low-gear corners. The track's surface is near to flawless and its rhythm fluid, that is until you encounter those two or three sneaky "stop and turn" sections. Although I've not ridden every track in the world, I'll risk my limited reputation and say that Ascari is unparalleled anywhere, taken as a whole experience.
Upon seeing photos of the resort from my trip, Motorcycle.com's photog and video man, Alfonse "Fonzie" Palaima said it looked like a race facility was plopped in Northern Cal's beautiful Napa Valley. Well said.
After a couple of led sessions around this dreamy road course we were let out to experience the track, and more importantly, the HP2 Sport, for ourselves.
Saddling up to the racy Boxer is similar to mounting many supersport or superbikes of today. The racing focus dictates that the seat be high (32.6 inches) for a forward cant or tuck. Once underway, though, the ergos are very neutral for a sporting machine and light years ahead of, say, a Ducati 1098. The seat-to-bar relation makes it easy for getting into a tuck, but does so in a manner that let me scooch back to lay across the tank and still be able to see through the windscreen and all of my helmet lens. Too often, attempting a full tuck on many other sportbikes compromises my view.
The ergonomics so impressed me that they bear a little more discussion. Not only is the reach to the clip-ons reasonable, the seat-to-peg distance seemed exceptionally roomy. My usual experience on performance bikes is a hot spot on the bottom of my foot and a numb throttle hand after half a day's worth of circling a course. At the end of our time at Ascari, it occurred to me that not once did I have to pull in before the end of a session to let the blood flow back into my tootsies or hands.
Additionally, the bike is narrow-waisted, no doubt aiding ride comfort and ease in transitioning across the saddle. Finally, I've found a sportbike that creates harmony between rider and bike without sacrificing either performance potential or comfort.
Next on the list is the superlative exhaust note that comes on this street-legal stallion. It'll make a racer out of anyone riding it, as the cleanly shaped can screams performance at speed, burbles like a tuned race machine at idle, and – this is the most fun part! – pops on the overrun like a formula car. Nothing short of thrilling sounds.
Throttle response was instantaneous and glitch-free while on the fly, allowing quick access to the grunty bottom-end power. But from closed to open throttle it felt remarkably abrupt. It had that on/off feel that plagues any number of fuel-injected bikes. Getting over that hump is easily forgotten once you start enjoying the very linear power inherent in the Boxer motor. The engine revs quickly, and a perceptible poke of power came on around 6000 rpm, though it's a bit difficult to say exactly the spot of boost as the LCD display was hard to read at times. Murky instrument display aside, the bike is plenty fast and fun to keep the throttle wrapped out. Driveline lash from the Paralever shaft drive was imperceptible during my time in the saddle.
The HP2 Sport may get out-gunned in an all-out speed war, but from my perspective it's difficult to find a better chassis. Stability at all times is a hallmark of the bike. A quick check of the specs reveals that the Sport shares nearly identical rake and trail figures (24.0 degrees and 3.4 inches) with Yamaha's R6 (24 degrees and 3.8") as an example. Those dimensions combined with the minimized rotating mass of the forged wheels and overall light weight of the bike make initial turn-in quick and light despite an unfashionably long 58.5" wheelbase.
Mid-corner line changes, trail braking and my own movement on the bike couldn't do anything to upset the bike's trajectory. What this boiled down to in the end was a bike that was easy to ride almost from the get go. All the more to its credit was that it allowed me to get comfortable quickly on a serpentine track that I'd never ridden.
Good news, bad news
If we've whet your appetite for this special motorcycle, you'll be even happier to know that it will be coming to the U.S.
As for when, how many or how much it'll cause you to deviate from your debt reduction plan, even BMW themselves can't say for certain at this juncture. Taking a guess, it's likely that more than 100 but probably well below 500 units will be bound for U.S. shores. Pricing? That's an even wilder guess. Again, we'll take a stab and say at least $22K, but it's entirely possible to see a figure over $25,000.
Something BMW is saying for certain is that they plan to campaign the bike in Formula Xtreme race trim next March at the Daytona 200. This high-performance Twin should do well considering its development in the 2007 World Endurance series and the near-win by an R1200S in this year’s Moto-ST endurance race at Daytona.
A few months ago I convinced my wife that she and I should join a health club. Judging by my expanding pear figure, it's obvious attending that club isn't a priority, though I said it would be. So, how do I explain to my wife I want to join a new club, an exclusive club
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I couldn't disagree more. Conservatives have already proven that they are willing to either turn a blind eye to or even support such lunatic accusations against anybody so long as it might damage or distract their political opponent. They don't care how far-fetched or personal the attacks are, as long as it creates some useful political capital.
I am fairly confident that rather than pointing to a conspiracy, this simply shows that when scanned, the operator had enabled some sort of "auto-text" option that attempted to read and convert then embed the raw text info in the PDF, as to make the text "selectable" in preview programs.
There are thousands if not more of us who would gladly pony up and stick with Apple.
Nailed it
Difinitely not. I won't say where I'd agree and disagree with for the rest of it, but that last sentence isn't right. Thousands implies a rather low number. Not nearly enough revenue for Apple to keep working on FCS. ;)
Nailed it
Difinitely not. I won't say where I'd agree and disagree with for the rest of it, but that last sentence isn't right. Thousands implies a rather low number. Not nearly enough revenue for Apple to keep working on FCS. ;)
I can't wait till spring for Leopard. That's too long, I want Leopard now :D :D :D come on Steve, give us Leopard!
I am now pretty sure that new MacBooks are being released in the next few days.
I ordered one on the 17th of august and it was scheduled to ship on the 24th of august. Then for some reason it was bumped to a new ship date of august 31st, just enough time to drop a new merom processor in it!
I ordered one on the 17th of august and it was scheduled to ship on the 24th of august. Then for some reason it was bumped to a new ship date of august 31st, just enough time to drop a new merom processor in it!
Ace25
Aug 26, 04:10 PM
I am now pretty sure that new MacBooks are being released in the next few days.
I ordered one on the 17th of august and it was scheduled to ship on the 24th of august. Then for some reason it was bumped to a new ship date of august 31st, just enough time to drop a new merom processor in it!
I ordered one on the 17th of august and it was scheduled to ship on the 24th of august. Then for some reason it was bumped to a new ship date of august 31st, just enough time to drop a new merom processor in it!
andiwm2003
Apr 25, 03:01 PM
Maybe next time read the post you are responding to - rather negatively to boot. The post I quoted discussed Apple exploiting people.
So an old post says apple is exploiting them and you imply I said that then? I said on numerous occasions clearly that this is not about Apple using this data. Interesting way to quote posts you have there:rolleyes:
So an old post says apple is exploiting them and you imply I said that then? I said on numerous occasions clearly that this is not about Apple using this data. Interesting way to quote posts you have there:rolleyes:
maclaptop
Apr 12, 10:33 PM
I wouldn't worry. I have an insider source who assures me Apple is basing its entire iPhone 5 product launch on when your contract ends. Here's a direct quote from Steve Jobs:
"While the antenna issues forced us to accelerate our product cycle in favor of a redesign a year earlier than expected, and while the earthquake/tsunami disaster in Japan has added several of its own complications, rest assured that Apple will take every conceivable measure to ensure that the iPhone 5 ships at a time close to the end of mlmathews' 3Gs contract. We have been quite fortunate with the success of out iOS devices in recent years, but we're not about to start pushing our luck here."
You're right.
I have confirmation that the upcoming iPhone release date is Tuesday January 17, 2012.
"While the antenna issues forced us to accelerate our product cycle in favor of a redesign a year earlier than expected, and while the earthquake/tsunami disaster in Japan has added several of its own complications, rest assured that Apple will take every conceivable measure to ensure that the iPhone 5 ships at a time close to the end of mlmathews' 3Gs contract. We have been quite fortunate with the success of out iOS devices in recent years, but we're not about to start pushing our luck here."
You're right.
I have confirmation that the upcoming iPhone release date is Tuesday January 17, 2012.
ergle2
Sep 13, 03:02 PM
You totally missed my point. Even if an application uses only one thread at all times, that application is still a separate process from all of the other processes you have running. At any given time you'll have at least 30 something processes, even when no user-land applications are running. OS X will spread out those processes to try to utilize all the cores as much as possible.
In reality, there are probably not too many non-Apple applications which routinely use 8 threads or more. In the near future I expect all applications to use at least 2-3 threads, even the most simple ones.
Sure, but all those background processes take next to no time to execute -- the extra latency of having more processors will probably slow things down far more than you gain from having up to 8 of those 30 be able to run at any one time.
I'm not saying there's no need for 8 cores -- markets such as databases, media production, rendering, etc. can already make use of that kind of power.
Regular desktops, not so much.
Many simple apps are already mutithreadedto some dgree, but it's to make them non-blocking rather than to spread processor load. If you look at Windows, you'll find a very high number of threads in even just a media player, but some of it's just there to repaint the GUI etc.
In reality, there are probably not too many non-Apple applications which routinely use 8 threads or more. In the near future I expect all applications to use at least 2-3 threads, even the most simple ones.
Sure, but all those background processes take next to no time to execute -- the extra latency of having more processors will probably slow things down far more than you gain from having up to 8 of those 30 be able to run at any one time.
I'm not saying there's no need for 8 cores -- markets such as databases, media production, rendering, etc. can already make use of that kind of power.
Regular desktops, not so much.
Many simple apps are already mutithreadedto some dgree, but it's to make them non-blocking rather than to spread processor load. If you look at Windows, you'll find a very high number of threads in even just a media player, but some of it's just there to repaint the GUI etc.
orthodoc
Nov 28, 08:22 PM
Actually, they do. They also got paid on every blank tape sold when cassettes were big. I think it is crazy for everyone to think that the music industry is greedy when it getting squeezed out of all of their revenue streams. So, Apple makes hundreds of millions off of their back on the itunes site, and a billion off of iPod sales, and they cannot share in the wealth?
It doesn't cost the consumer any more, why wouldn't you want the people who actually make the music you are listening to get compensated?
This debate is stale. People want something for nothing.
Getting squeezed out of a revenue stream is just part of being in business. Either adapt or go away. Nothing entitles them to a portion of the iPod sales. They make their money off of the sale of the actual music they produce. Should they get a portion of each computer sold as well? After all, the computer is used to both download and play the music. Dumb argument.
It doesn't cost the consumer any more, why wouldn't you want the people who actually make the music you are listening to get compensated?
This debate is stale. People want something for nothing.
Getting squeezed out of a revenue stream is just part of being in business. Either adapt or go away. Nothing entitles them to a portion of the iPod sales. They make their money off of the sale of the actual music they produce. Should they get a portion of each computer sold as well? After all, the computer is used to both download and play the music. Dumb argument.
Iconoclysm
Apr 19, 08:34 PM
Well Rovio (Angry Birds) thinks otherwise:
http://www.insidemobileapps.com/2011/03/13/angry-birds-android-ios/
"The company said in December that it expected to make $1 million per month from Android by the end of 2010. (...) Now that the app has seen about 100 million installs across all platforms, Rovio is not getting the same initial bump in paid download revenue from Apple�s app store. On Android, the company doesn�t offer paid Angry Birds apps, but sees recurring revenue from advertising."
So they make more money with their free Android version than they do with the paid iOS version.
Actually, that article does not say they make more money - they say that the two are making about the same money RIGHT NOW. After the initial amount that they made from Apple, when revenues were much higher.
http://www.insidemobileapps.com/2011/03/13/angry-birds-android-ios/
"The company said in December that it expected to make $1 million per month from Android by the end of 2010. (...) Now that the app has seen about 100 million installs across all platforms, Rovio is not getting the same initial bump in paid download revenue from Apple�s app store. On Android, the company doesn�t offer paid Angry Birds apps, but sees recurring revenue from advertising."
So they make more money with their free Android version than they do with the paid iOS version.
Actually, that article does not say they make more money - they say that the two are making about the same money RIGHT NOW. After the initial amount that they made from Apple, when revenues were much higher.
Dr.Gargoyle
Aug 11, 04:12 PM
Yeah, I've got several as well, if I spend more than two weeks in another country or visit there frequently I tend to get local subscription. Much more convenient to stay connected with the locals. This way I help more and more countries to get over the 100% treshold as well :rolleyes:
LOL... be careful. Let us not start a flame war.;)
LOL... be careful. Let us not start a flame war.;)
Dr.Gargoyle
Aug 11, 02:21 PM
Now in Europe I know it is different and that GSM is the standard.
It is more like 81% of the world market.
It is more like 81% of the world market.
ergle2
Sep 13, 01:58 PM
The only limit with Windows is they keep the low end XP home to 2 processors on the same die. There is probably an architectural limit on both OSX and XP and if it's not 8 it's 16. It's probably 8.
There's a bunch of HP Superdome 64-way Itanium systems around running Windows Server mostly for MS SQL work.
Windows XP 64bit is based on the same core. Given the license is per-socket, not per-processor (currently, anyway) and the Pro editions support two sockets, it should in theory support the 8-way setup as described by Anandtech.
Whether it recognises quad-core CPUs as such may of course be a different matter.
There's a bunch of HP Superdome 64-way Itanium systems around running Windows Server mostly for MS SQL work.
Windows XP 64bit is based on the same core. Given the license is per-socket, not per-processor (currently, anyway) and the Pro editions support two sockets, it should in theory support the 8-way setup as described by Anandtech.
Whether it recognises quad-core CPUs as such may of course be a different matter.
bousozoku
Aug 7, 11:25 PM
Hi, this is just a question to the developers. Did you already get 10.5? I have the ADC Select membership but can�t find 10.5 in the download section. Please send me an email where I can find it. Thank you!
It seems as though I received previous distributions 3-4 weeks after WWDC but they weren't downloadable to Select members, only available in a physical package.
It seems as though I received previous distributions 3-4 weeks after WWDC but they weren't downloadable to Select members, only available in a physical package.
mcrain
Mar 22, 02:41 PM
Mcrain, don't try changing history. Look back at all the left-wing loons screaming racist, war-monger, 'blood for oil' when Bush attacked Iraq... where are they now? It's the media to a lesser extent, but they certainly play a role.
Wait a second again. Don't you try changing history. What "left-wing loons" are you talking about? I was right here saying we shouldn't be invading without more evidence and more time for the UN to search for WMDs, and I'm sure you would consider that yelling war-monger, blood for oil, etc..., but I'm not a "party insider", candidate or elected official. As for those on the left before Iraq, one guy who opposed the war from the start is president today.
Compare today to prior to the Iraq war. Today there are some democrats airing concerns about this action. Before the Iraq war, the GOP in congress were less independent than a sock puppet. Other than Ron Paul (who I know you support), did anyone in the GOP offer any criticism? If not, then isn't your party worse? I mean, you ONLY have one person who can claim with a straight face that he is not being a hipocrite in his criticism today. ONLY one.
As for Paul, you're probably right, unless people wake up, unless something happens, he won't get the nomination. That's why I'm doing all I can now to help the cause and promote his values across my state. No, I did not see the 'ghostwritten' pamphlet. What's the significance. And Rand didn't trip over anything.
Ron Paul's pamphlet... Controversial claims made in Ron Paul's newsletters, written in the first person narrative, included statements such as "Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day." Along with "even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming." Another notable statement that garnered controversy was "opinion polls consistently show only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, if you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be". An issue from 1992 refers to carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos." In an article titled "The Pink House" the newsletter wrote that "Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities." These publications would later create political problems for Paul and he considered retiring his seat. Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul#Newsletter_controversy)
Rand didn't trip on the Civil Rights Act? Ok, only if you agree with him that entire towns in the South should have the right to discriminate like they used to. The free market will sort it out... just like it did before the civil rights act.
Wait a second again. Don't you try changing history. What "left-wing loons" are you talking about? I was right here saying we shouldn't be invading without more evidence and more time for the UN to search for WMDs, and I'm sure you would consider that yelling war-monger, blood for oil, etc..., but I'm not a "party insider", candidate or elected official. As for those on the left before Iraq, one guy who opposed the war from the start is president today.
Compare today to prior to the Iraq war. Today there are some democrats airing concerns about this action. Before the Iraq war, the GOP in congress were less independent than a sock puppet. Other than Ron Paul (who I know you support), did anyone in the GOP offer any criticism? If not, then isn't your party worse? I mean, you ONLY have one person who can claim with a straight face that he is not being a hipocrite in his criticism today. ONLY one.
As for Paul, you're probably right, unless people wake up, unless something happens, he won't get the nomination. That's why I'm doing all I can now to help the cause and promote his values across my state. No, I did not see the 'ghostwritten' pamphlet. What's the significance. And Rand didn't trip over anything.
Ron Paul's pamphlet... Controversial claims made in Ron Paul's newsletters, written in the first person narrative, included statements such as "Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day." Along with "even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming." Another notable statement that garnered controversy was "opinion polls consistently show only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, if you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be". An issue from 1992 refers to carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos." In an article titled "The Pink House" the newsletter wrote that "Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities." These publications would later create political problems for Paul and he considered retiring his seat. Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul#Newsletter_controversy)
Rand didn't trip on the Civil Rights Act? Ok, only if you agree with him that entire towns in the South should have the right to discriminate like they used to. The free market will sort it out... just like it did before the civil rights act.
littleman23408
Dec 6, 08:15 PM
I got an 03 Lotus Elise :rolleyes:
Its a nice car, i just have no use for it. Idk if there are Lotus-only races later on so i didnt sell it yet.
I noticed in my garage that theres an option for sharing cars online. I havent read the GT5 manual so i have no idea what it does, but i assume it would allow my PSN friends to drive my cars if i'm not using them. I shared my Citroen, if someone is logged on later check the Online tab of your garage and see if its there. Just dont put too many miles on it ;)
Werd, I'll check later. I know I noticed you online earlier. I wanted to send you a message so we could race. I went in the lobby and was just :confused:
So how do we go about setting up a two (or more) race?
Its a nice car, i just have no use for it. Idk if there are Lotus-only races later on so i didnt sell it yet.
I noticed in my garage that theres an option for sharing cars online. I havent read the GT5 manual so i have no idea what it does, but i assume it would allow my PSN friends to drive my cars if i'm not using them. I shared my Citroen, if someone is logged on later check the Online tab of your garage and see if its there. Just dont put too many miles on it ;)
Werd, I'll check later. I know I noticed you online earlier. I wanted to send you a message so we could race. I went in the lobby and was just :confused:
So how do we go about setting up a two (or more) race?
robbyx
Apr 25, 04:05 PM
This suit has merit. If I turn off location services there should be no record of where I go.
Why would you assume that turning off location services would prevent tracking? The phone is still connected to the cell network. I'd assume Airplane Mode would turn off tracking, but not location services.
With that and other simple info I can find out where you work, where you bank, where you live, what time you usually get home. All it takes is one website or email attachment to compromise your device. This info is not encrypted.
I do think if Any device does this they should be sued
First, someone would have to obtain your phone. No one seems to mention this. Big bad Apple is tracking us all!!! Apple isn't tracking anyone. The phone is logging location information for some reason, perhaps legit, perhaps a bug, perhaps test code that got left behind, who knows. The point is, your location isn't compromised unless someone steals your phone.
And if they steal your phone, they'll have your address book, your web bookmarks, your email, your notes, etc.
Suing over this is idiotic and really shows how absurd this whole "privacy" debate has become. Scott McNealy said it best years ago: "Privacy is dead. Get over it."
Why would you assume that turning off location services would prevent tracking? The phone is still connected to the cell network. I'd assume Airplane Mode would turn off tracking, but not location services.
With that and other simple info I can find out where you work, where you bank, where you live, what time you usually get home. All it takes is one website or email attachment to compromise your device. This info is not encrypted.
I do think if Any device does this they should be sued
First, someone would have to obtain your phone. No one seems to mention this. Big bad Apple is tracking us all!!! Apple isn't tracking anyone. The phone is logging location information for some reason, perhaps legit, perhaps a bug, perhaps test code that got left behind, who knows. The point is, your location isn't compromised unless someone steals your phone.
And if they steal your phone, they'll have your address book, your web bookmarks, your email, your notes, etc.
Suing over this is idiotic and really shows how absurd this whole "privacy" debate has become. Scott McNealy said it best years ago: "Privacy is dead. Get over it."
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| cast. I Love Lucy But that's different from APPLE "EXPLOITING" you, isn't it? Perhaps a dictionary reference will help you "understand it"? Verb 1. exploit - use or manipulate to one's advantage; http://www.thefreedictionary.com/exploit So, pray tell, what's Apple's advantage over you here? Where did I say Apple is exploiting me?:confused: Apple did a shoddy programming job by not encrypting the data. Thaty is why Apple is under pressure by the various govenments and rightfully so. Nobody says Apple is using this data in a malicious way. (aside of this lawsuit but that is only here in the USA and stupid and greed driven by lawyers and totally besides the real issue) |
Flowers Walls
In traditional development software is designed, coded, reaches alpha (all features coded), reaches beta (no known defects serious enough to consider any feature incomplete), and then reaches the final candidate stage (known defect count below release threshold prior to testing). Eventually an FC does well enough in testing to be declared the GM.
Agile works differently prior to beta, but you still have final candidates that eventually boil down to a single GM.
Ok, so I take the point, made ad nauseam, that these features are not entirely new or innovative, since there are third party apps out there that do the same. And perhaps Apple is copying Vista, which doesn't really bother me either.
Bottom line: time machine will make a huge difference for most users in terms of preventing or remedying data loss!
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